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>> reporter: we heard from speaker john boehner who said that treasury secretary geithner did not come with a substantive plan in terms of spending cuts. we know the republicans were hoping when the treasury secretary came here to capitol hill, that he would have laid out some serious spending cuts because the republicans are saying if we're putting revenue on the table, we need to see some serious spending cuts from the white house. i think it's important to note the difference between what is said in public and what is said in private. these meetings are held in private. in public lawmakers are sounding a little tougher. here's the senate majority leader on the senate floor earlier today. >> for four months house republicans have refused to act. instead, they've held the middle class hostage to protect the richest 2% of taxpayers, people who enjoy a decade of ballooning income and shrinking tax bills. >> reporter: so that is the public sentiment from the senate majority leader, blasting the republicans for not passing the tax cuts for the middle class. in private, though, it sounds l
>> reporter: we heard from speaker john boehner who said that treasury secretary geithner did not come with a substantive plan in terms of spending cuts. we know the republicans were hoping when the treasury secretary came here to capitol hill, that he would have laid out some serious spending cuts because the republicans are saying if we're putting revenue on the table, we need to see some serious spending cuts from the white house. i think it's important to note the difference between...
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>> it has given john boehner some cover. you now have a conservativconse albeit establishment member of the house republican party who is essentially going to the left of john boehner. of course, john boehner has basically said, look, i disagree with tom cole. what has happened, we have actually seen other republicans embrace what tom cole said. mary bono mack said she'd support something tom cole is calling for, extension of the bush tax cuts for the middle class, not for the wealthiest. by having this cover john boehner could actually have the flexibility to negotiate with the white house maybe something that doesn't go as far as the white house and tom cole want, but some other kind of middle ground. something we didn't see in the 2011 negotiations over the debt ceiling. >> meanwhile john boehner is being pretty elusive about what the specifics, the details are. i want to play a little bit of what he said today at his weekly briefing. >> revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spen
>> it has given john boehner some cover. you now have a conservativconse albeit establishment member of the house republican party who is essentially going to the left of john boehner. of course, john boehner has basically said, look, i disagree with tom cole. what has happened, we have actually seen other republicans embrace what tom cole said. mary bono mack said she'd support something tom cole is calling for, extension of the bush tax cuts for the middle class, not for the wealthiest....
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. >>> coming up, what in the world is going on with speaker boehner? he went off his own cliff today. we'll tell you why he's ready to hold the economy hostage again. >>> and what's really behind john mccain's relentless and baseless attack on susan rice? former governor of new mexico and ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson, joins us live. >>> plus, remember this guy with the romney tattoo? he might just be the smartest man in the republican party today. >>> and we'll tell you what joe biden bought at costco today. you'll love this video. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> this is interesting. president obama is going to have lunch with mitt romney and you thought you had an awkward meal with your family on thanks giving. what i don't get is he said nobody should get a free lunch and now he's going to the white house to have a free lunch. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to mo
. >>> coming up, what in the world is going on with speaker boehner? he went off his own cliff today. we'll tell you why he's ready to hold the economy hostage again. >>> and what's really behind john mccain's relentless and baseless attack on susan rice? former governor of new mexico and ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson, joins us live. >>> plus, remember this guy with the romney tattoo? he might just be the smartest man in the republican party today....
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>>> want to take you live to capitol hill where house speaker john boehner is speaking live to the press and emerged from are a meeting with timothy geithner, treasury secretary. let's listen in to what he has to say. >> i met with erskine bowles and business leaders about averting the fiscal cliff, and achieving t the balance the white house says it wants. i made clear we put real concessions on the line by putting revenues on the table right up front. unfortunately, many democrats continue to rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan t
>>> want to take you live to capitol hill where house speaker john boehner is speaking live to the press and emerged from are a meeting with timothy geithner, treasury secretary. let's listen in to what he has to say. >> i met with erskine bowles and business leaders about averting the fiscal cliff, and achieving t the balance the white house says it wants. i made clear we put real concessions on the line by putting revenues on the table right up front. unfortunately, many...
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help or hurt john boehner's cause of cutting a deal before going over the qulcliff? >> long term probably helps. not helpful every day that goes by without entitlements being part of the discussion. >> i snow there are senate republicans frustrated. do you think tom cole helps the cause of barack obama? >> keeps taxes in the discussion, so it helps. >> you are a skeptic that there would be a deal. >> why would i be a skeptic? >> you believe we will gooff o the cliff. >> i do. i want to see the speaker put something on the floor that does not get the majority. >> i will make the prediction he will go there without knowing he had the majority. i have sources who claim this. shame wless plug. >> christmas, remember the folks in new jersey and new york. >> i have to go with my washington redskins. big game monday night, new york giants. wild card. >> lose record wild card? >> i know you're excited about facial hair being all the rage these days, but this is the last day of november. men's health issue prostate and tess ti testicular cancer. >>> that's it for the daily ru
help or hurt john boehner's cause of cutting a deal before going over the qulcliff? >> long term probably helps. not helpful every day that goes by without entitlements being part of the discussion. >> i snow there are senate republicans frustrated. do you think tom cole helps the cause of barack obama? >> keeps taxes in the discussion, so it helps. >> you are a skeptic that there would be a deal. >> why would i be a skeptic? >> you believe we will gooff o...
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boehner. >> it may be your favorite spot for lounging around but your couch could be killing you. 85 percent of all couches in the united states contain potentially toxic chemicals according to a study published by the journal of environmental science and technology. most are treated with chemicals that are supposed to prevent fire. many of the chemicals have been banned because they can cause cancer among other problems. >> that is scary. the words husband and wife getting axed from marriage certificates in washington. they will likely be replaced with more gender neutral terms spouse a and spouse b. the same-sex marriage law takes effect december 6th. >> the video you have to see a zebra and tony captured on cell phone video running wild through the streets of staten island, new york. it happened during a busy morning commute. >>> it's a zebra. it's staten island running past me. it came towards me. i tried to stop him so it didn't run into the street. it didn't stop. they were running so fast. it was like a herd moving the pony was leading and the zebra was behind it. >> behind th
boehner. >> it may be your favorite spot for lounging around but your couch could be killing you. 85 percent of all couches in the united states contain potentially toxic chemicals according to a study published by the journal of environmental science and technology. most are treated with chemicals that are supposed to prevent fire. many of the chemicals have been banned because they can cause cancer among other problems. >> that is scary. the words husband and wife getting axed...
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the chairman is close to john boehner and i think they are consulted with each other. the talks already high level between the staff of john boehner and the obama administration. host: could this issue to be treated separately? guest: no. i think it will be decided in some kind of package at the end of the year. it could be a small package but they need to make a decision. host: kenneth, good morning. caller: i don't think the american people will get anything unless we let things go over the fiscal cliff. republicans will never agree to anything. i think obama needs to stick to his guns. guest: that is one of view of some liberals and some republicans say let's go over the cliff. then you get to cut tax rates. that is easier politically to do. nobody says it is their first choice. some say the democrats could have more leverage if we go over the cliff. some think tanks have said and most people understand it is a slope. it will be gradual. many people are looking to the stock-market to see what their reaction is if there is not a deal. that could have its own impact o
the chairman is close to john boehner and i think they are consulted with each other. the talks already high level between the staff of john boehner and the obama administration. host: could this issue to be treated separately? guest: no. i think it will be decided in some kind of package at the end of the year. it could be a small package but they need to make a decision. host: kenneth, good morning. caller: i don't think the american people will get anything unless we let things go over the...
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start with you, ari, this is a clip from john boehner. he was talking earlier today about these negotiations to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. >> so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to make. >> so here's the question, ari. why go public with those kinds of concessions? don't you make those kinds of concessions in private negotiations as opposed to speaking publicly about them right now and giving away your own leverage, if you will? >> yes, you do. you have to make those in the private talks. not in the public maneuvering that's going on. but i also worry that it's not being said in the private talks. and that's why you're hearing speaker boehner say what he's saying. wolf, i'm getting a growing sense from the people that i talk to that there's a real exasperation where we are where we were in 2011 with nothing happening in these talks. that ca
start with you, ari, this is a clip from john boehner. he was talking earlier today about these negotiations to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. >> so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to make. >> so here's the question, ari. why go public with those kinds of concessions? don't you make...
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and then with house republicans including speaker john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan. geithner will lunch with mitch mcconnell and then house minority leader nancy pelosi. president obama is signaling he's flexible on on where tax rates should go for the wealthiest americans. a return to the clinton era tax rates would have households pay between 36% to 39%. the president met with a group of 14 ceos wednesday afternoon. they offered support for resolving the if i can crisis with a proposal for higher taxes for those who make more than a quarter million dollars a year. sdl bo >> both sides have acknowledged that there will be revenue concessions and sbilgtment cent concessio concessions. i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> ford chairman bill ford junior agrees with blankfein saying he's confident the obama administration can reach a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. but speaking with reporters in bangkok, he says the a
and then with house republicans including speaker john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan. geithner will lunch with mitch mcconnell and then house minority leader nancy pelosi. president obama is signaling he's flexible on on where tax rates should go for the wealthiest americans. a return to the clinton era tax rates would have households pay between 36% to 39%. the president met with a group of 14 ceos wednesday afternoon. they offered support for resolving the if i can crisis with a proposal...
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the voters threw him out of the white house. >> steve: but at this stage in the negotiations, john boehner made it clear. he will not raise the tax rates. he's looking at other way to raise revenue. we don't need to raise the rates close to 40 percent. >> they are saying that. they are disingenous. >> i respect in negotiation you take positions that you don't expect to end up with. lind an johnson said never watch them make sausage or legislation because give and take is unpleasant they talk about not raising rates and getting ritted of deductions. what ever takes more money from the hard working americans and gives it to the government and gives it to the consuming part of society. that doesn't cause prosperity. >> steve: last line of your column which is called republicans and taxes regarding bush 41. her bert walkerb bush would abide by his pledge today. just a guess. >> steve: i bet you are right. >> thank you guys. >> steve: check this out. a zebra chasing a horse in the streets of new york city. you don't see that every day. why are they going. and what do lottery winners doing with
the voters threw him out of the white house. >> steve: but at this stage in the negotiations, john boehner made it clear. he will not raise the tax rates. he's looking at other way to raise revenue. we don't need to raise the rates close to 40 percent. >> they are saying that. they are disingenous. >> i respect in negotiation you take positions that you don't expect to end up with. lind an johnson said never watch them make sausage or legislation because give and take is...
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our next guest met with john boehner on capitol hill yesterday. tom wilson is the ceo of the insurance giant allstate. i see in your preinterview notes you've got some good news, but the way you say it, i'm concerned about where we are. let me start with the good news which moons that there's some bad news. what do you mean? >> sure. i am concerned. the good news is -- and we met with the democrats who control the snachlt we met the republicans who control the house, the white house economic team. so we saw all sides of this. the good news is we all agree this is an opportunity to show the rest of the world we know how to run our house economically. they all want to make a deal, three, they all agree it's a $4 trillion number and four, they all agree -- there's three kmoents. we've got reform entitlement, raise revenue and reduce spending. so those are all the good things. you want to know the bad news. >> yeah, i guess. >> yeah. okay. so the bad news is nobody's really decided how much of that $4 trillion goes into each of the three buckets. so r
our next guest met with john boehner on capitol hill yesterday. tom wilson is the ceo of the insurance giant allstate. i see in your preinterview notes you've got some good news, but the way you say it, i'm concerned about where we are. let me start with the good news which moons that there's some bad news. what do you mean? >> sure. i am concerned. the good news is -- and we met with the democrats who control the snachlt we met the republicans who control the house, the white house...
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boehner. dan lothian is at the white house. dan, what do you know? >> reporter: well, this is the second phone conversation now that the president has had with speaker boehner with regards to the fiscal cliff. this call, according to a source familiar with it, told me it lasted for 28 minutes. this official saying it was hardly short or curt, as had been reported by some news outlets. and my colleague, jessica yellen, heard from another source that said that the president told speaker boehner that he felt that rates had to go up on wealthy americans and that there would be no deal without that. so clearly, there is still some distance between the two sides here. the president believing that wealthy americans need to pay more. those bush era tax cuts should not extend for them. republicans believing that all americans should benefit from those tax cuts, and that now you should put en titlements on the table. of as we see, the officials from the white house going up to capitol hill today, treasu
boehner. dan lothian is at the white house. dan, what do you know? >> reporter: well, this is the second phone conversation now that the president has had with speaker boehner with regards to the fiscal cliff. this call, according to a source familiar with it, told me it lasted for 28 minutes. this official saying it was hardly short or curt, as had been reported by some news outlets. and my colleague, jessica yellen, heard from another source that said that the president told speaker...